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		<title>By: Scottboy79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scottboy79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the McDonald era Doobies blew! Tommy Johnston sang some of the finest music EVER as lead vocalist for the 'Bro's'. 

Please do me a favor. Don't EVER, EVER EVER EVER, put Michael McDonald's name in the same sentence with Def Leppard. Not to mention Steely Dan, The REAL Doobie Brothers or Toto. What a slant against bands that WERE actually bands. Mr. McDonald was nothing more than a coat-tail riding douche-bag, who to this day (as of Feb. 16th 2006) squeezes financial milk out of others' hard work and genious. (Hello Motown?? It's Michael McDonald. Can I borrow some more classics to wipe my feet on??)

Thank you and good day.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the McDonald era Doobies blew! Tommy Johnston sang some of the finest music EVER as lead vocalist for the &#8216;Bro&#8217;s&#8217;. </p>
<p>Please do me a favor. Don&#8217;t EVER, EVER EVER EVER, put Michael McDonald&#8217;s name in the same sentence with Def Leppard. Not to mention Steely Dan, The REAL Doobie Brothers or Toto. What a slant against bands that WERE actually bands. Mr. McDonald was nothing more than a coat-tail riding douche-bag, who to this day (as of Feb. 16th 2006) squeezes financial milk out of others&#8217; hard work and genious. (Hello Motown?? It&#8217;s Michael McDonald. Can I borrow some more classics to wipe my feet on??)</p>
<p>Thank you and good day&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 15:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob...Right..! But let's not go too far in dissing the &#34;Pro Tools&#34; era. Even in 1977 , you had to lip-sync if you did &#34;Solid Gold&#34; , or &#34;American Bandstand&#34; because they were &#34;pop&#34; shows. We always snickered about the promotional necessity of doing those shows as opposed to &#34;Rock Concert&#34; or &#34;Midnight Special&#34; where they taped live. But management always insisted ; great exposure ! But there's ALWAYS been a &#34;pop&#34; &#34;manufactured&#34; side to the biz. I mean the &#34;1910 Fruitgum Co.&#34; was on the charts at the same time as Jethro Tull and Fleetwood Mac and Frank Zappa had current releases. We all looked down our noses at &#34;.....Fruitgum' or &#34;The Archies&#34; etc.....but we all also wished to hell we were making the $ that we imagined these records made......for the execs , of course ;-) Also ; there was always a difference between records and &#34;live&#34;. The Frank Sinatra generation dissed us rockers because we did overdubs rather than recording live, reading from charts. They said our records were therefore phony , and &#34;manufactured&#34; by no-talents who couldn't really sing or play. And of course , by Frank Sinatra standards , Bob Dylan , for instance, CAN'T sing....but he set a new standard where technical chops didn't matter. So....it's not &#34;Pro-Tools&#34; that's the problem , although I'm sure David Foster had a ball showing off on TV , but the choices PEOPLE are making. Notice too, that all of the American Idol winners are &#34;chops monsters&#34; , albeit rather faceless and devoid of originality . Last note ; David Foster turned down doing the strings on my &#34;French Kiss&#34; album because , to his mind, the music wasn't hip enough. He had 1st shot. Gene Page , Motown's arranger wound up doing them instead... So.....there are a lot of things that are not hip enough for David Foster, apparently. Having said that....Foster , Lukather , Nathan East, Michael McDonald et. al....my idols !! Always will be . But there's snobbery even among our &#34;believing&#34; generation. I doubt if Lukather would rank Def Lepard alongside the McDonald era Doobie Bros. for example....... Or Steely Dan , the ultimate musicians band , over and above Toto , even ;-) I could go on , but for now................. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob&#8230;Right..! But let&#8217;s not go too far in dissing the &quot;Pro Tools&quot; era. Even in 1977 , you had to lip-sync if you did &quot;Solid Gold&quot; , or &quot;American Bandstand&quot; because they were &quot;pop&quot; shows. We always snickered about the promotional necessity of doing those shows as opposed to &quot;Rock Concert&quot; or &quot;Midnight Special&quot; where they taped live. But management always insisted ; great exposure ! But there&#8217;s ALWAYS been a &quot;pop&quot; &quot;manufactured&quot; side to the biz. I mean the &quot;1910 Fruitgum Co.&quot; was on the charts at the same time as Jethro Tull and Fleetwood Mac and Frank Zappa had current releases. We all looked down our noses at &quot;&#8230;..Fruitgum&#8217; or &quot;The Archies&quot; etc&#8230;..but we all also wished to hell we were making the $ that we imagined these records made&#8230;&#8230;for the execs , of course <img src='http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Also ; there was always a difference between records and &quot;live&quot;. The Frank Sinatra generation dissed us rockers because we did overdubs rather than recording live, reading from charts. They said our records were therefore phony , and &quot;manufactured&quot; by no-talents who couldn&#8217;t really sing or play. And of course , by Frank Sinatra standards , Bob Dylan , for instance, CAN&#8217;T sing&#8230;.but he set a new standard where technical chops didn&#8217;t matter. So&#8230;.it&#8217;s not &quot;Pro-Tools&quot; that&#8217;s the problem , although I&#8217;m sure David Foster had a ball showing off on TV , but the choices PEOPLE are making. Notice too, that all of the American Idol winners are &quot;chops monsters&quot; , albeit rather faceless and devoid of originality . Last note ; David Foster turned down doing the strings on my &quot;French Kiss&quot; album because , to his mind, the music wasn&#8217;t hip enough. He had 1st shot. Gene Page , Motown&#8217;s arranger wound up doing them instead&#8230; So&#8230;..there are a lot of things that are not hip enough for David Foster, apparently. Having said that&#8230;.Foster , Lukather , Nathan East, Michael McDonald et. al&#8230;.my idols !! Always will be . But there&#8217;s snobbery even among our &quot;believing&quot; generation. I doubt if Lukather would rank Def Lepard alongside the McDonald era Doobie Bros. for example&#8230;&#8230;. Or Steely Dan , the ultimate musicians band , over and above Toto , even <img src='http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I could go on , but for now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lukather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lukather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 03:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob
Rick Allen was my next door neighbor for many years! Great old pal. I love 
all the guys and I am a fan as well. Glad to see that you can still dig a band 
that can play and write great tunes but maybe isnt &#34;hip&#34; by Rolling Stone magaz
ine and the like. Rock isnt dead..its the fucks that WRITE about what they can 
nor will never do. That is the vibe that is dead. My son is 18, on the road 
playin his ass off and all he listens to is Def, VH, my old shit, Floyd, etc... 
Somethin is goin on. I think kids are tired of all the fake shit as well. 
People are NOT stupid. maybe a bit lazy sometimes but not stupid. My old Pal 
David Foster was on a TV show, the View..and he brought a pro tools rig in and had 
Star Jones , who cant sing a lick, sing something into it badly and Foster 
made it sound like she could sing. Finally the truth shown to the masses. My 
mother in law saw it and said &#34; NOW I know why Steve gets so pissed off at the 
fake pop music of today&#34;. hahaha Had to laugh.
Rock is not dead. Pop is.
Luke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob<br />
Rick Allen was my next door neighbor for many years! Great old pal. I love<br />
all the guys and I am a fan as well. Glad to see that you can still dig a band<br />
that can play and write great tunes but maybe isnt &quot;hip&quot; by Rolling Stone magaz<br />
ine and the like. Rock isnt dead..its the fucks that WRITE about what they can<br />
nor will never do. That is the vibe that is dead. My son is 18, on the road<br />
playin his ass off and all he listens to is Def, VH, my old shit, Floyd, etc&#8230;<br />
Somethin is goin on. I think kids are tired of all the fake shit as well.<br />
People are NOT stupid. maybe a bit lazy sometimes but not stupid. My old Pal<br />
David Foster was on a TV show, the View..and he brought a pro tools rig in and had<br />
Star Jones , who cant sing a lick, sing something into it badly and Foster<br />
made it sound like she could sing. Finally the truth shown to the masses. My<br />
mother in law saw it and said &quot; NOW I know why Steve gets so pissed off at the<br />
fake pop music of today&quot;. hahaha Had to laugh.<br />
Rock is not dead. Pop is.<br />
Luke</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Struber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Struber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the car with a buddy in NYC this weekend. I've got a 2001 BMW with 
no iPod connector (they didn't put that in 'til 2002...D'OH!) and have yet to 
find an FM modulator unit that doesn't sound like AM.  So, I dug out one of the 
mix CD's that my fiance had made for the car.  As we're driving out to Long 
Island, 'Hysteria' comes on.  My initial reaction (despite LOVING that song) 
was to change it, thinking maybe it was &#34;not cool.&#34;  My friend (we're both 
33...and very adventurous with our musical tastes) was like &#34;what are you doing!?!  
I love that fucking song!!!&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the car with a buddy in NYC this weekend. I&#8217;ve got a 2001 BMW with<br />
no iPod connector (they didn&#8217;t put that in &#8217;til 2002&#8230;D&#8217;OH!) and have yet to<br />
find an FM modulator unit that doesn&#8217;t sound like AM.  So, I dug out one of the<br />
mix CD&#8217;s that my fiance had made for the car.  As we&#8217;re driving out to Long<br />
Island, &#8216;Hysteria&#8217; comes on.  My initial reaction (despite LOVING that song)<br />
was to change it, thinking maybe it was &quot;not cool.&quot;  My friend (we&#8217;re both<br />
33&#8230;and very adventurous with our musical tastes) was like &quot;what are you doing!?!<br />
I love that fucking song!!!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 03:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't even like Def Leppard and I got goose bumps reading this. 
It is , was and always will be about the live experience and how it moves you.
When it does, you are a fan for life.

You nailed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even like Def Leppard and I got goose bumps reading this.<br />
It is , was and always will be about the live experience and how it moves you.<br />
When it does, you are a fan for life.</p>
<p>You nailed it.</p>
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